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« on: June 21, 2007, 09:13:43 PM »

Despite the reports the events took place up to two years ago.



Aussie crew 'fended off Iranian gunboat'

June 22, 2007

AN Australian navy boarding crew in the Gulf of Persia repelled an Iranian gunboat that threatened them a matter of weeks before 15 British sailors were captured in a similar incident, a BBC reporter says.
The capture of the British crew in March developed into a major diplomatic incident before their release was negotiated.

But BBC reporter Frank Gardner, a security specialist, reported the Australians managed to avoid a similar incident - pointing their guns at the Iranians and used "colourful language" before a gunboat withdrew.

"What I've been told by several sources, military sources, (is that) there was a similar encounter, in this case between the Royal Australian Navy and Iranian gunboats, some months ago, or at least some months prior to the seizing of the British sailors," Gardner said on ABC radio today.

"The Australians escaped capture by climbing back on board the ship they'd just searched. I'm told that they set up their weapons.

"No shots were exchanged but the Iranians backed off and the Australians were able to get helicoptered off that ship and they didn't get captured."

He did not mention the name of the Australian ship.

Australians ships rotate through duties in the Gulf, chiefly searching ships.

"What I'm hearing is that it was a pretty robust attitude by the Australians," Gardner said.

"The words that somebody said to me was that they used pretty colourful language but I'm sure that alone didn't make the Iranians back off.

"They reacted, I'm told, incredibly quickly, whereas the Brits were caught at their most vulnerable moment climbing down off the ship (and) getting into their boats."

Gardner said the British should not be embarrassed about the incident, but the issue was whether military intelligence had been passed on.

"The point of this story is not that the Aussies were fantastically brave and the Brits were a bunch of cowards, although I'm sure some people will interpret (it that way)," he said.

"Lessons should have been drawn from what happened to the Australian crew."

He said he had not been able to find out whether the information on the Australian incident had been passed on to the British.

Prime Minister John Howard said today he was seeking more information about the incident.

"I'll be getting some further advice on it later this morning.," Mr Howard said on Channel 7 this morning.

"The only thing I can say is that the people we have in the Gulf are engaged in very dangerous work and the RAN has done a fantastic job and a very courageous job. As to the particulars of that claim, I'm not advised."

- AAP



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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2007, 11:01:20 AM »

Don't mess with them diggers!
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« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2007, 01:54:31 AM »

Yep Elfie our lads and lasses do ous proud big grin

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How Aussies beat capture
Patrick Walters, National security editor
June 23, 2007

FAST thinking by a small group of Australian sailors allowed them to evade probable capture by Iranian revolutionary guards, the Defence Department revealed yesterday.
The previous undisclosed encounter with Iranian gunboats in the Persian Gulf in December 2004 came after the Royal Australian Navy sailors made a routine search of a grounded cargo ship.

Navy Commodore Steve Gilmore yesterday said the four-hour drama began as the sailors were reboarding their boats to return to HMAS Adelaide.

An Iranian gunboat approached and its heavily armed personnel made "very overt gestures" to the Australians, Commodore Gilmore, a former coalition taskforce commander in the Gulf, revealed.

The Australian commander quickly ordered his men to return to the small cargo ship, MV Shams, where they took defensive positions.

"He got his boarding party back on to the ship and established a very credible and appropriate defensive position," Commodore Gilmore said.

The Iranian threat increased when another four speedboats with rocket-propelled grenade launchers arrived.

"(They) began what I think is very unique in the Australian way and that's the capacity to negotiate, to introduce extra waypoints if you like, in the continuum of force," he said.

"Over a tense period of four hours, the boarding party was eventually successfully extracted by helicopter back to the Adelaide."

Details of the standoff were revealed on Thursday by BBC reporter Frank Gardner, who said the Australians had pointed their guns at the Iranians and used "colourful language" to dissuade any attempt at taking hostages.

Commodore Gilmore confirmed basic details of the incident and emphasised the calm professionalism of the young RAN sailors.

"We were able to keep that as the case by the very deliberate, well-considered and well-executed negotiation process that the Australian boarding officer undertook," he said.

"The determined approach, the no-nonsense approach of the Australian boarding party, was able to effectively manage that situation. Those values that I think were displayed really do highlight what is unique about the Australian soldier -- the courage that was shown in demanding circumstance, the loyalty, the teamwork were there throughout."

Two members of the team were awarded the Distinguished Service Medal for their conduct.

The Australians' handling of the incident close to the Iranian border sparked comparisons with the ordeal suffered by British sailors captured by Iranians in March during a similar patrol.

Accused of straying into Iranian waters by their captors, the Royal Navy sailors provoked a tense diplomatic standoff between Iran and Britain before they were eventually released.

Commodore Gilmore told reporters yesterday there were similarities and differences between the two incidents.

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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2007, 10:17:21 AM »

Cussed them out so bad, they left in embarrassment or challenged them to a game of cuts and the Iranians lost? LOL

All joking aside, it must have been awfully touch and go and I am glad they got out of it all unharmed, cause from the look of it, things could have turned into a furball real easy.
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« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2007, 11:39:12 AM »

Good on the aussies.They were a lot better,than the crew of R.Navy,R.marines.
It was a utter disaster,it made me sick that they did not get the support,when needed
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« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2007, 01:07:25 PM »

There times when I think the old maxim of shoot first and ask questions later would be a good idea, but I know that it isn't and is just me getting mad. Grrrr
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2007, 01:45:06 PM »

All they had was small arms S.A 80. No LMG,no GPMG,etc.They had a support helicoter,again nothing that would give heavy fire. That heli legged it,and did not return.It was just one complete farce.
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2007, 11:53:53 PM »

How come the good guys are always under armed and the bad guys get all the big guns? You are in a part of the world involved in warfare, at least one of them or the chopper should have had some teeth. Mini-gun off the chopper would have put lots of nice little holes in the bad guys boat. Is it our fault if they can't swim?
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2007, 06:26:09 AM »

lol doesnt matter who had the bigger guns , you dont just go an surrender? ur forgetting the british had a large ship standing by;)? im sure the aussies would of been out gunned aswell.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2007, 01:22:39 PM »

Very true. It does make you wonder why their ship didn't do something. If nothing else an "Oops, did I ram and sink you? Sorry, I was just trying to get closer to get my guys off." would have been OK. Can't let them bully and bluff you. This is a war, after all, whether the politicians like to call it that or not.
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