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« on: August 18, 2007, 04:01:37 AM »

Afghanistan | 17.08.2007
Germany Mulls Expanding Afghan Mission
Gro?ansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift:  Will Afghans see more of this in the future?
High-ranking German government officials on Friday reiterated the country's commitment to continue its mission in Afghanistan as Canadian and US officials urged Berlin to increase the number of troops.

Attending a memorial service for three German police officers who were killed by in a bomb attack outside the Afghan capital of Kabul on Wednesday, Deputy Interior Minister August Hanning said that the German deployment to Afghanistan was in the interest of Germany's own security.

"I can assure that the German government is fully committed to the engagement in Afghanistan," Hanning said in Kabul on Friday, calling the memorial service "a very bitter moment."

Merkel knew one victim


Bildunterschrift: Gro?ansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift:  The memorial service took place at the German embassy in Kabul
The police officers killed in the attack were sent to Afghanistan by Germany's Federal Criminal Police (BKA) to protect the German embassy in Kabul. German Chancellor Angela Merkel personally knew one of the men as he was assigned to her security detail for several years before being sent to Afghanistan.

The men were the first German police officers to be killed in Afghanistan. Since the start of the mission, 25 German soldiers have died, 14 of them in attacks.

More Germans wanted

Canadian and US officials meanwhile have called on Germany to increase its presence in Afghanistan.

"We would welcome it if Germany and other countries -- this is a concerted NATO effort -- would send more soldiers," Paul Dubois, the Canadian ambassador to Germany, told the public broadcast Deutschlandradio on Friday.


Bildunterschrift: Gro?ansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift:  ISAF troops in southern Afghanistan
He added that International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) was "still fairly small" at 40,000 troops, 2,500 of which are Canadian. Dubois said that 66 Canadian military personnel and one Canadian diplomat had died in Afghanistan so far.

Germany currently has some 3,000 soldiers stationed in Afghanistan and three separate mandates are up for renewal by the parliament in the fall.

Going south

Several German lawmakers have been traveling to Afghanistan, NATO's headquarters in Brussels and allied countries to prepare an extension of the mission, which is increasingly losing support in Germany.

J?rn Thiessen, a Social Democratic member of parliament and his party's defense expert, told Rheinische Post newspaper that US officials had told him they were expecting Germany to beef up its training of Afghan soldiers.

Thiessen added that the Americans were aware of Germany's concerns to send troops to the more dangerous south, but had asked that German soldiers accompany Afghan trainees in case they are moved from the safer region around Kabul to the south.

PR failure?


Bildunterschrift: Gro?ansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift:  German soldiers in Afghanistan
Deputy Foreign Minister Gernot Erler meanwhile told Berliner Zeitung that Germany was thinking about expanding its participation.

"This is something that's under consideration within the federal government," he said, adding that it was still unclear whether an expansion could happen within the current mandate, which is limited to 3,600 troops.

"What's clear is that our work in the north cannot be called into question just because we're taking on new tasks," he said, adding that convincing the German population of the importance of the Afghanistan mission had failed so far.


 
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2007, 06:06:25 AM »

I hope the Germans do increase their numbers. The few occasions I deployed with the Bundeswehr in the late 80's, they proved to be very able and competent troops, particularly their armoured Regiments. An increase in their strength on the ground would be very beneficial to the NATO task.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2007, 08:27:59 AM »

Yes the more the merrier there I reckon.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2007, 09:49:40 PM »

An increase would be good,
They have always had a very proffessional attitude and approach to their duties.

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2007, 10:43:03 PM »

You know funny coming from me but I always found German Military uniforms kinda sexy lol.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 01:06:43 AM »

I have always held German soldiers in high regard (not just saying that due to my grandmother) and if they deploy further in Afghanistan it would be great; as mentioned more the merrier. thumbs up

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2008, 10:27:27 PM »

The ROE for a lot of the NATO troops needs to be examined, from what I've seen. A specific example actually would be Germany. Research for a report my team produced for the Pentagon last fall indicated that German NATO troops were not allowed to operate after dark. wtf Color me surprised! What my team and I found was that the overwhelming bulk of the NATO tasking has fallen on the shoulders of the troops contributed by the "english-speaking" countries (you know who you are...) in NATO. Many of the representative countries imposed operational restrictions on their forces, rendering their contribution rather anemic. It is likely that an increase in troops, alone, will not produce a proportional result, if a significant realignment of ROEs for NATO troops is not engaged. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2008, 11:25:38 PM »

Don't they have night vision gear, or other early warning devices, or arn't they allowed to patrol or ambush on the dark side?
Sounds dangerous to me.....good soldiers f#cked by rules yet again.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2008, 07:52:14 AM »

The document found if you click here will be of interest vis-a-vis Afghanistan. Regarding the activities and restrictions of NATO troops from various countries, pages 29-31 will be particularly relevant. The report I've linked above is from the U.S. Congressional Research Service. The original report was made available in 2004, as I recall, but it is updated fairly often. The version linked above was updated 14 January 2008.

Good reading!

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« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 08:07:03 AM »

Looks interesting, Thanks for that Hosre ride big grin
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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2008, 11:07:36 AM »

You're welcome!   big grin
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« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 11:39:52 PM »

Ditto with the thanks  thumbs up
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