Rabbi calls to abolish army service for women

[Ari]

Yes, I agree.

[adam1]

At least in the area of combat most of the reading of women in combat is not positive. There do seem to be double standards in what would be considered physically fit depending on if you are male or female.

I will say that Rabbi's and Rabbinic Judaism isn't great when it comes to interpersonal whether it is between a man or woman or between a jew and people from other nations and cultures. Rabbi's being in an all male profession do tend to more overly protective then men who work with women on a larger basis and see that women are not always so innocent. I don't agree with these blessings thank you for not making me a nonjew, a slave, or a woman. A Cohen doesn't make a blessing thank you for not making me a Yisrael as ony Cohen can serve in the temple. Rabbi's also believe that women who marry nonjews are victims. They outlawed men marrying nonjews they never got around to outlawing women who marry nonjews. I think it is bad that in the Muslim religon a man can marry a non-muslim and the kid will be Muslim it doesn't matter who the mother is and this leads to women being devalued. IN the Jewish religon it doesn't matter who the father is and that leads to men and fathers being devalued. But Rabbi's seem ti have an OVERLY OVERPROTECTIVE atitude toward women which I find disturbing. And it is bothersome to see women who marry a nonjewish man and there are no real consequences. It doesn't make my life easier. I also really don't understand (I've looked it up in the bible and it uses the word witness in a generic male form) why women shouldn't be allowed to testify if they see a murder or something. It makes no sense. It is sad to say but Rabbi's have a long way to go to really understand male-female issues (the military one would be one of those although from what I have read it seems certainlly in combat it should be avoided for the most part)and I don't know what the solution is as they are in their own world and don't relate well to the rank and file.  This is coming from a guy who admittingly is fairly near sided so for that reason I likely would not be in combat unless I improved my vision. They do have some eye exercize programs.

[tito]

Rabbi calls to abolish army service for women

Prominent Zionist-religious leader Rabbi Shlomo Aviner rules girls must not enlist in IDF, move that he claims goes against Torah laws. In wartime, women's duty is to support their men, he writes

Kobi Nahshoni
Published:    05.12.08, 08:35 / Israel Jewish Scene

Prominent Zionist-religious leader, Rabbi Shlomo Aviner called on young religious women not to enlist in the army, a move he defined as a violation of Torah laws.


In an open letter published in the Mayyaney Hayeshua movement's pamphlet this weekend, Aviner ruled that army service is forbidden for all women, and urged his female readers to act for its annulment.

 

"Never enlist in the army?ever," Aviner wrote, quoting a list of leading chief rabbis and religious leaders who have prohibited such service in the past. "It is forbidden! Forbidden like kashrut! Forbidden like Shabbat! And especially forbidden like modesty!"

 

The rabbi stressed that while contributing to the State is indeed important, one must not do so by serving in the army. The women's duty during war, he wrote, was to support the men who go to battle. Enlistment, on the other hand, is a desecration of God's name.

 

Instead of dedicating themselves to the challenges of military duty, Aviner offered girls to fight for abolishing "this negative phenomenon."
      

"We need you to function as a pure and clean woman? and not to undermine your mental foundation? remember: Army service for women, in any shape or form ? is forbidden! Forbidden! Resist the temptation!" he concluded.

wow.. this guy gives some indian muslim mullahs a run for their money!
dumbasses are seen everywhere, irrespective of region and religion
quite frankly he dosent realize the potential women have for torture and interrogatory purposes!