The Real Adam Saying Hello

[adam1]

Hi everyone.  THis is the real Adam saying hello although I did not read everything the imposter Adam said about me. I am NOT from Canada, LOL. I live in NJ.  I am an EX-JTFer. I was banned a while back but I realize JTF (and then whole Kahanist movement including the late Rabbi Kahane himself) has some serious problems 

Rabbi Kahane worked for a paper that does not care much for Jewish fathers and openly raising children without fathers. This is suppose to be an Orthodox Jewish paper. And mothers are important (you have no argument from me about that) but so are fathers and many studies have shown this. In fact since JTF is so racist the fact of the matter is an African American child with both parents is less likely to get involved in crime then a white child from a single home which usually is the mothers so one of the items to stop crime is (there are exceptions) but in general to promote children having access to both biological parents and not alowing one parent to extort money or teach the child to hate the other parent.
I also know the connection between easy divoce and communism which it is pretty obvious if you think about it for anything a woman doesn't like she can divorce the guy and get a lot of his money. THat isn't much different then a marxist leader that also finds the most silly of reasons to take away your property and your money. It also is not good for a woman's soul to just think a guy's hard earned money should be taken at the slightest provocation and he is treated with no respect and he can't say anything to his own children. How could you teach a child value's if the parent doesn't have any values. I understand that the culture teaches woman that this is OK that some don't even realize it and the biggest evil doers are the one's who teach that this is OK and even appropriate but it isn't good for them to think that way. Anyway.

Especially regarding the millitary it is disturbing. In the United States men who are in the millitary come home and have been incarcerated because they were behind in their child support payments. Could you imagine anything more demoralizing then this. You are puting your life on the line to protect the country and to protect FREEDOM yet you have NO FREEDOM with your own children and you are paying for children that you only say occaisonally and if you say anything the mother doesn't like you could lose the children completely. I can't imagine anything more demoralizing then that. The law was trying to be changed in the US but don't know if it was. I don't know if anyone has info on that.

Also, as I had told Maureen on my emails involving the Jews being expelled from Gush Katif
Which was another thing that really upset me was that Chaim made no difference between the soilder's that passively went along and some were clearly upset about it and the one's who did it and enjoyed doing it and abused other Jews. Chaim called them all criminals and had no compassion to any of these young men which I just think is terrible. Judaism believes in Justice it also believes in Mercy as well and these men who went along passively and some who were upset and crying about it had families in Gush Katif who just left and felt that had to listen to the Israeli gov't. It wasn't because of the soilders who acted passively. So there was a lot of blame to go around for this and while I don't have much compassion for the men who acted brutally and abused other Jewish families who lived in Gush Katif and do think their behavior is a disgrace I don't feel the same way about the soilders who acted passively and I think anyone that does has no love for his own people and is just using these young Jewish men as a scapegoat which JTF does and in general Kahanist groups always need a scapegoat but don't want to work to improve their own internal problems which you need a combanition of being moral within and dealing with you enemy without. Just focusing on your enemy while ignoring your own shortcoming I think is a recipe for disaster. Just my opinion.
 

[adam1]

Also just wanted to say this is my last post till tonight as it is my Shabbos. I felt I needed to introduce myself being that someone was trying to pretend to be me. I thank Kiwi and Maureeen for bringing this to my attention.  They were using my email address as well. 

[adam1]

Also just wanted to add at this point I guess I'm not so meticulous in Shabbos as I should be even though I should be. It is a problem facing the observant Jewish community that they are meticulous on keeping Shabbos and keeping Kosher (which I agree is part of the religon) but aren't in much else which is a problem as there are other obligations besides these 2 above.

[KellyMaureen]

Glad to have you here Adam 

Youre so right about fathers rights, they have none within our court system.  Ive seen my male friends reduced to nothing more than a paycheque for the mother, granted children need to be financially supported however its not THE most important thing in a childs life, the courts only care if the father is paying, they dont care at all if visitation is fair or even if the mother is allowing access, just dont miss a payment.  One of my friends also has had custody of his son and raised him alone since the kid was 6, he has not seen one dime of support from the "mother" )who took off for greener pastures leaving her kid behind) nor have the courts made one move to enforce the support action against her.....and the kid is now 17....and they say there is no double standard, whatever 
A father is VERY important in a childs life, unfortunately our court system either doesnt know, or doesnt care.

[Husar]

Husar Saying Welcome.

 

[kiwi]

No Worries Adam I am waiting for Allan-T to respond to me. If you are able to contact him it would be good. I believe the same thing done to you, has been done to him.

[Silver Bullet]

Welcome to MGAF to the real Adam. lol

Now where's the real "Eve" ? lol

[KellyMaureen]

Welcome to MGAF to the real Adam. lol

Now where's the real "Eve" ? lol

LOL my son hears that all the time

[adam1]

There are occaisonal cases it is the mother who gets screwed  if the guy has political connections or for example the guy wants to send the kid to public school while the mother wants to send the kid to a private school they will sometimes side with the guy in that case. They want the kid in a gov't school.  THe other thing is how much of "child support" goes to children. We don't know. Some mothers use it mostly for themselves. Nobody makes sure this money goes to the children. It goes to the mother where SHE decideds how to spend it. I do know that if a guy loses his job or has a lower salary it is very hard to get an adjustment for child support. THese agencies that collect child support are also in business by having a lot of men and sometimes women in arrears. It really is a disgraceful system but men in the military also in the past have not been protected either (I am not sure if it has changed) and that really is terrible that men who serve the coutry and risk their lives are left with heavy child support payments and sometimes incarcarrated when they get back. A very book came out that was suppoted by a book club that I buy books from called Taken Into Custody: The war againt father, marriage, and the family. One of the reason IMO the west is in trouble is because of the breakdown of the family and the gov't being more supportive of divorce and women relying more on the gov't then on their husbands and their family.  Among other problems people don't get married and have children and an aging population is not good for a countries ability to defend themselves. I hope I am not getting too political here as I saw there is a board for that. I like all the smilies though I have to say.

[adam1]

Welcome to MGAF to the real Adam. lol

Now where's the real "Eve" ? lol

Good question? I don't know. I will be turning 35 in July. Sigh!!  :sadv:What can I tell you. Unfortunately I'm still single.

[adam1]

I'm sorry to hear somone's trying to imitate him. Haven't really corrosponded with Allan-T though although I could try to email him.

[kiwi]

I'm sorry to hear somone's trying to imitate him. Haven't really corrosponded with Allan-T though although I could try to email him.

Be go if you could I would like it cleared up. I don't like posers and fakes.

[adam1]

I got a good laugh reading the statements as to why Yacov and Yehudit left including finding out who the imposter was.    And their PROBLEMS imitating me because I HATE WOMEN so they had to act differently.  What a holier piece of garbage Mills/Yehudit is. She wants to be left alone. Uh-huh. Talk about passive aggressive or worse. I guess those 2 deserve each other but I suspect at some point they will go after each other as well because what ties them together is nothing good.

[KellyMaureen]

Ha ha Adam you never said one thing to me to make me think for a second you hate women, however they have the king of all women haters STILL on that site, and call him "honorable" 

[adam1]

Who would that be?? Chaim Fan or C.F. That was what got me banned among other things also questioning aspects of the movement on You Tube. This guy only wanted a women that doesn't bear children which I don't know I think that should be offensive to women it is women that have the ability to bring new life into the world and a guy that doesn't want a woman like that must have some serious jealousy and hatred issues with women. And Lisa and Yacov loved this guy and called him a righteous gentile which I could not believe. And when they appointed Lisa as global moderator for THIS REASON and the fact that I pointed out on her blog she said her sisters called her a right wing nut job and she said we still love each other depsite this AND I DID SAY IT WAS RELATED TO POLITICS she just seemed like a strange woman to me. She was always blaming men for everything yet I never heard her say a word about her father or any brother is she has any. Yet her sisters don't think highly of her and she doesn't care. But to then like a guy like Chaim Fan or C.F. who said he doesn't want a women who bears children is just completely crazy and bizzare and in my view had no business being a global moderator not to mention an administrator which she now is. Is that who you talking about. Chaim Fan or C.F.  Or is it somebody else? 

[KellyMaureen]

Yes he is odd, not many women would be willing to not have their own children, I know I want my own, BUT I would ALSO be willing to adopt as well because there are so many kids who are just plain unwanted and mistreated and need a home with loving parents.
Im not sure he 'hates' women, he just has no experience with them
Scriabin hates women, if they arent wearing a black garbage bag with eyeholes they are 'whores' and if they dont jump to his every demand they are worthless...he can say he doesnt all he likes, he has a fit if anyone uses the word 'jap' because he evidently has a jap wife (I have my doubts about 'wife' of the female persuasion but whatever), but using 'whore' etc to describe women he doesnt even know its just fine, what a loser 

[adam1]

Scabby certainlly is a strange guy as well. Most of JTFers are. He is concerned about feminism which he agreed with some of my views on that. Then when I was banned he didn't care and claimed I shouldn't think I know everything. So he has general social problems which is an issue with the whole movement. I looked on Yacov's forum and Mills is saying tht being a Kahanist means never giving in which I have to say a mature person know that there are times to stand up for yourself and not give in and there are other times that it is appropriate to give in. A person that thinks it is ALWAYS WRONG to give in has serious issues. That is also the type of nature Kahane brought forward which some may disagree with me but that is why I don't like the movement. I know you wrote to me about what Scabby said to you that you just use your body to get moeny from people which anyway in any area it takes two to tango and for him to make a statement with no evidence other then a tiny picture on the forum shows a man that has no judgement but also a guy who doesn't take responsibility for his own behavior and wants to blame other people including women. I don't think he likes too many people of either gender. He is married so and I don't know what his wife thinks of him.

[kiwi]

They made a massive mistakes with their spys, they kept saying I knew you Adam, which you know I never did. We had pegged them from day one, just needed proof, we used them to feed information to Victor lol.

[kiwi]

Scabbie is NOT married I found that out , its just a front he puts up.

[KellyMaureen]

Scabbie is NOT married I found that out , its just a front he puts up.

well he can get married now, its legal in california

LOL if only I did what he says, I work 50 hours a week(at a legal job lol) and am in the process of starting a business.....

[kiwi]

well he can get married now, its legal in california

LOL if only I did what he says, I work 50 hours a week(at a legal job lol) and am in the process of starting a business.....

Yes and its 30 hours a week in the illegal one
Which I got to say, last shipment of 9 mils was a disappointment. I don't know.its so  hard to get good crims nowadays.

[adam1]

Well it certainlly did backfire. On my end it shows that they view them as a threat to them. Some people who they banned for GOOD reason (which are only a few) they obviously have no need to imitate on other boards. I still don't understand the whole Stormfront thing because I did remember reading on the Kahane Org site about that unless someone was pretending to be you Kiwi which I guess is possible although some of the earlier posts you seemed to make a lot of sense. Not that I care so much about JTF but I would never give info to Stormfront and I don't think you would either because after all they view all Jewish people as bad and it just isn't worth it to get involved with them. Everyway knows now that someone illegally used my email address which looks really bad on JTF's part. Although who gave it out I don't know. I guess that is all I want to know.

[kiwi]

I was on Kahane.org until they mucked around pretending to be me.
I never posted it on Stormfront, it was DWI or CF or even Cohen who all have accounts there.
They used used it as something to fight each other with.

I believe CF and DWI are nazi SFers and they have proven time and time again how to destroy jews. Even when I called scabbie a nazi he never defended that. Vicky spends his time having Nazi's about them and targets real Jews. I believe its his way to stop JDL and any other Kahanists from impacting on antisemitism in this world. 

[adam1]

Well yeah I agree both CF and Down With Islam are very disturbed. And CF has got people banned because they were on Storm Front so he would only know if he himself was there. However, it is unfair to just blame Victor for CF. You have to remember both Lisa and Yacov supported him as well even though he is a very very strange person and Yacov called him a righteous gentile so there was much support for him in much of the leadership besides Victor and it has to do with feminism which you could read in the 3rd paragraph.

I guess we will have agree to disagree that I actually just think Victor is imitating Rabbi Kahane for the most part of most of Rabbi Kahane's supporters were also very strange and weird people just like Victor and just like Victor people were used. I live in NJ. JDL doesn't do much. Honestly it doesn't. You can check the article Kach and Meir Kahane The Emergence of Quasi Facism. http://www.geocities.com/alabasters_archive/kach_and_kahane.html Rabbi Kahane NEVER HAD A #2 Man. Which in itself is very disturbing. THis article talks about a man lerner who had to resign because of some differences of philsophy which a normal organization good people sometimes have some honest diffrences. I don't think the JDL is a threat to JTF in any way. I never hear a word about this organzation and never have and I have lived in the NY City metro area my whole life. This article also states that it was a personality cult and that Kahane was viewed as a Demi G-d and he himself viewed him as such as having ALL THE IDEA'S. Victor himself has said that the crticism he receives were the exact same crticizisms Rabbi Kahane received. I don't think Victor is lying. Also like Victor most of Kahanist supporters were the very young who were a little more naive as on the surface it does sound's great at the beginning until you start to investiagate it more.

I grew up in NY and received the paper Kahane worked for the Jewish PRess and like I said that a paper is a horrible paper and has done tremendous harm to American Jewry and Especially NY Jewry. Since I know you care about fathers Kiwi the Jewish Press has never cared about them and don't think children really need them. They didn't care about protecting marriage which is VERY IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY DEFEND MARRIAGE but to STRENGTHEN it because of the fact that most western countries have very low birth rates. Kahane never cared about this issue but felt we should ban democracy because of low Jewish birth rates which is not a good precedent to set. These kind of idea's attract strange people who have certain sexual issues who many times are attracted to racist ideologies because of thier inability to internally reproduce or to want to promote that among others. CF fit into that montra. He said that feminism started in America in the 1850's because it was legal in America for men to kill their wives. When I asked CF to defend his views he gives me a case of child abuse by BOTH PARENTS that in this case there were no laws specifically against CHILD ABUSE although it may have been something else. From that he concludes it was legal for men to kill their wives is a little nuts don't you think. But Lisa and Yacov liked those views. And Kahane had a weakness for feminism as well (as I mentioned with the Jewish Press) and that is how CF got to where he is. Of course CF saying that he doesn't want one of those woman who can get pregnent I guess doesn't bother feminst women or women like Lisa who sadly are past childbearing age but for whatever reason don't want other women to have children. I agree I don't think CF is trustworthy but he got there because of the problems with the Kahanist movement and I am certain Kahane attracted similar types of individuals and in fact that also I have read that Kahane attracted a lot of people who were very socially disturbed.

[kiwi]

CF has his problems, and thankfully he is unable to reproduce. G-d has seen fit to remove his DNA from the Gene pool.

I think we see things very differently, not that is such a bad thing, if anything it allows a balanced view on the situation.

Unknown to JTF and thier little insane ways, I lived in Israel. I worked along side people that were making a difference.

The fact is answers need to be found, not by gentiles. 

Not all Kahanes ideas I support. But the important ones I do whole heartily.

Jews are the only ones to help Jews.

Jews need to defend themselves and take up arms to do so, and stop acting as victims.

Jews need to regain pride in themselves and not crawl on their belly's like worms to gentiles.

Jewish men, need to be men.

Only self hating insane worm like arabs would beg for money.

Jews will not beg.

Name one successful Jew that crawled in the dirt in front of goyim, to rule and be powerful? 

This is the mistake Kahane tried to get people to understand and change.

For thousands of years Jews have been hunted and killed. The race the belief survives why? Because Jews are a strong people that don't require goyims.

Honestly they need to keep their noses out of business that doesn't involve them.