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« on: November 05, 2008, 06:39:44 AM »


Military sees Obama as key to victory in Afghanistan
Democrat's popularity abroad will make European nations less reluctant to contribute more troops, generals believe

DOUG SAUNDERS

From Tuesday's Globe and Mail

LONDON — In normally hawkish military and diplomatic circles, it is being called an "Obama boost": a widespread belief that the war in Afghanistan may be winnable only if Barack Obama is elected president tonight.

To a surprising degree, military and government officials in the United States and Europe have pegged their hopes for victory in Afghanistan or a reduction in violence to Mr. Obama's ability to win over skeptical European audiences and persuade them to contribute large numbers of troops to a war that is widely seen to be in serious trouble.

Amid fast-increasing violence and declining public support in Afghanistan, many top U.S., British and Canadian military commanders and government officials involved with the war say in private discussions that they believe the Afghan war will be lost unless a large number of additional soldiers and civil workers - a number that ranges from 60,000 to more than 100,000 - is sent to Afghanistan by the end of next year.

There are currently about 64,000 troops in Afghanistan, including 2,500 Canadian soldiers. To bring about this effective doubling in troops at a time when NATO has had difficulty getting its member countries to contribute even 2,000 additional soldiers, officials are counting on an Obama victory.

The Globe and Mail

"The Europeans are likely to be more accommodating of the next administration to increase their own troop presence," said James Dobbins, who was President George W. Bush's envoy to Afghanistan. "And I think Obama, if he becomes the next president, is greatly more popular in Europe. So I think there's a honeymoon, and he'll have more leverage to increase troops ... the effect is there, and it's not negligible."

Mr. Obama, whose campaign has focused on the war in Afghanistan far more than that of his Republican opponent, John McCain, has pledged to remove all U.S. soldiers from Iraq within 16 months and shift the military focus to Afghanistan.

This would contribute as many as 40,000 soldiers to the Afghan war, though some analysts say that in practice the contingent would be more in the range of 25,000 to 30,000, or about half the required number.

The other half would have to come from North Atlantic Treaty Organization countries, including Canada and most European countries, which have been reluctant to contribute more troops.

This is where the military is putting its hopes on Mr. Obama.

A British general said in an off-the-record briefing last month that he believes "a five-figure number" of soldiers can be made available by Western European countries including Britain, but are being held back because of a desire to avoid seeming to support the Bush administration.

An Obama victory, he said, would provide an even greater number of troops.

"I would say that there is a reasonable prospect of Obama getting the Europeans to do more," said Charles Kupchan, a former U.S. National Security Council director who is now a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

"One reason has to do with discomfort with President Bush, the war in Iraq, and U.S. foreign policy during the past eight years. And the discomfort with U.S. policy creates a domestic environment across Europe which makes it harder for European governments to step up to the plate in Afghanistan. Having Obama in the White House will engender goodwill, which will buy European governments more room for manoeuvre, more latitude to act."

Also, European and Canadian voters, and to some extent governments, are seen to have lost any sense of purpose in the Afghanistan war, and to have developed a skepticism toward U.S. motives in the war. Because Mr. Bush has done so little to sell the war, there is a widespread sense that countries are seeking excuses to withdraw from the conflict.

"That's an area, I think, where Obama will be able to work with his European allies to do a better job of selling the war to skeptical publics," Mr. Kupchan said.

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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 07:13:08 AM »

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Not if the POTUS is going to surrender.
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 02:41:42 PM »

As I said in the lead balloon post. This guy is now the President of the US and Commander in Chief of all Allied forces in Afghanistan.
It is time to put Republican /Democrat stuff away, get behind this guy and win the war.
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 04:28:20 PM »

Obongo is the reason my brother gave up his military career.....the military does its own poll and 79% supported McCain, and that wasnt because they actually supported him, it was more the "anyone but obongo" thing
This is total and utter BS, our troops will be out of the middle east soon as obongo gets into the black house and with congress and the senate being almost all dems he can pass whatever he likes.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 04:41:37 PM »

The world is in one hell of a mess and I'm prepared to try anything to fix it and that includes Obama.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 04:56:18 PM »

Unfortunately he wont fix it only make it worse.
While iran arms itself and likely its neighbors with nukes obongo will talk and talk and talk and talk and before long unless Israel does something about it, they will be under a mushroom cloud along with a few european cities, not to mention the terror groups they will share with, none of us will be safe.  Obongo has already said he will meet with our enemies with no preconditions....he has no experience and will fill his cabinet with no one with a backbone, we have a dem congress, so the only response we will give when attacked is a heartfelt apology from obongo that there werent more innocent infidels to be slaughtered...sorry our buildings got in your way

Dave was a Marine for 16 years, LOVED the military, my dad was a career Marine, he would have stayed but as he says when he has no confidence or respect for his commander in cheif its time to go...he didnt like clinton but at the very least he felt that he would do what was best for America, he and plenty of other servicemen feel that obongo is anti-American and will refuse to serve under him.  Not that it matters, obongo plans to gut our military to cover his plans to 'redistribute' wealth to those who dont get off their rears and work anyhow.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 05:18:22 PM »

All the worries that you write about I agree with and I have waited in vain for an allied strike at the Iranian nuclear facilities before it is too late.
 George Bush didn't do it. He had the chance and even supplied Israel with the F-16i aircraft with deep penetration ground hugging capabilities to do it.
It didn't happen and now it's probably too late.
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2008, 07:13:15 AM »

Bush was/is in the pocket of the Saudis. O'bummer is in the pocket of the Iranians. He'll allow Iran to arm itself with nukes and pull out of Iraq to allow Iran's shiite proxies to take over there. The one consolation is that the Saudis will cop it in the neck first, but we'll ALL pay a hefty price for his capitulation to Iran.

I just pray to G-d Israel turfs it's kapos out of the knesset before they and O'bummer can really screw things up there.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 02:03:10 AM »

The fact is the Military never gets a say in what goverment they want or like. Honestly thats just a suck up saying they support them. Many in the higher mil positions only have to wait 4 years and their parasite problem goes.
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